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Should the School Cell Phone Ban Be Lifted?

When is a phone ban more than just a phone ban?

Parents across the city are starting to ask a question as summer break continues in New York: why can't my child bring their cell phone into a public school?

The New York Times wrote this week that a vast majority of City Council members have signed a letter urging Schools Chancellor Dennis Walcott to lift the long time ban on phones in schools

As cell phones have evolved into smart phones, PDA's, and other devices that are intimately intwined with our lives, it's certainly a question worth considering. What was once a device just for connecting with friends and loved ones has become a tiny electronic repository for every thought, appointment and crucial piece of information. 

Some council members have also argued that the ban is discriminatory, because it is reportedly more stringently enforced at schools with metal detectors and in low-income neighborhoods.

Should students be without their dearly-held technology throughout the school day? Is it a distraction from the learning process? Or is it a violation of a student's basic right to connect with their friends and families? 

Astur July 5, 2012 at 03:59 pm
I just fail to understand why they can't be turned in at the start of the school day and picked up at the end of the day for any communications that need to occur going home/after school with a signed waiver at the beginning of the year stating that the school is not responsible for loss. They certainly aren't needed in the classroom so this would solve the problem while still allowing for parental communication after school is out.
Kourtney July 5, 2012 at 04:11 pm
I think we need to start trusting the kids and come up with fair rules for cell phones in school. I want my kids to have their phones in case of an emergency!
Anita July 5, 2012 at 04:19 pm
Yeah, I think the ban is a bit extreme considering how ubiquitous cell phones are. I think there should be strict punishment for using them in class, but they should be able to have them
Jenny July 6, 2012 at 04:52 pm
i agree with the emergency, safety issue. that would seem to trump potential problems.
Eneri July 6, 2012 at 08:13 pm
I think I have a perfect solution to this issue, that is In classrooms and during the day it should absolutely be banned. the DOE should set up a rental system that parent pay at the begining of each school term that will have the phone held all day kids drop off the phones in the morning, and pick them up at the end of the day. This way the store trucks that are currently parking in front of public schools charging students $1 dollar every day, and in one incident got robbed, that way and additional money is paid into the school system! That's roughly 1 million dollars for each student times five days a week? Do the Math? Why has the Mayor and Chancellor not thought of this before? That Money can then go right back into our system, for education!
Tony July 6, 2012 at 08:17 pm
What point do you people don't understand? It's a school, not a freakin playground or the beach or a friends house. There is absolutely no reason that any kid should need to bring a phone to class or a school end of story. It is not the job of anyone at the school to monitor your personal possessions which cost a lot of time and resources which our schools barely have to begin with.
"Some council members have also argued that the ban is discriminatory, because it is reportedly more stringently enforced at schools with metal detectors and in low-income neighborhoods." As for the council members who are nothing more than agitators who do nothing but cause trouble and clearly lack education themselves by making ridiculous racially charged statements about the ban being discriminatory I have news flash for all of you....Yes, they especially do not allow cell phones at schools with metal detectors because they have already caught those young delightful innocent children that we coddle so much trying to sneak in razor blades within the cell phones themselves. Funny how the news article doesn't say much about that...or our councilmen aren't bothered by that We all survived before cell phones ever existed. If there was ever an emergency the school was always contacted by a family member and the staff would notify the student accordingly. How about teaching these kids how to show respect and stop being followers and trying to out do their classmates w/ the latest smartphone?
Eneri July 6, 2012 at 08:17 pm
I just want to add that If you as a parent can afford to buy your child a phone to take to school YOU should be PAY a fee for them to have it!
Eneri July 6, 2012 at 08:18 pm
in case of an emergency call the school directly!
Eneri July 6, 2012 at 08:19 pm
This I agree with but the parents should pay a fee as I stated In my comment below!
Eneri July 6, 2012 at 08:47 pm
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! well said! they dont get it! that's why I say charge the parents a fee! its not the schools problem, you can't talk to your kid becuase 98% of the kids, text and some sadly sext all day long, never pay attention in class, yet the parents want to blame teachers, MOST kids have more advanced phones then their parents, so if you can get your child a phone that cost $499 or more pay a fee to have your child's phone stored in school all day
Chonchita Garcia July 7, 2012 at 07:39 pm
As a D.O.E. employee for over 24 yrs I can tell you why it's too overwhelming to allow cell phones in school and storing them. 1st students even knowing they'll get it back at the end of the day they still try to sneak it in. Also to collect, label phones and store them in a secure place is more tedious than you'd think. It's also VERY time consuming. Especially when you have a student body of over 2000 and more than half have cell phones. You can't imagine the time it takes to collect and give back phones. It takes HOURS! I know because we do it in our school for special circumstances. Then you have the students who won't give up their phones making that another process and issue. Also it isn't the job of School Safety to collect phones so staff members will have to be assigned for that. Costing more school resources. Then there is theft to consider! As with anything of value there's always someone who'll beat and steal for it. Besides the annoyance of these kids texting every second, taking pictures or looking up answers on the internet. There are so many GOOD reasons why it's been banned and still should be. In case of an emergency then CONTACT the school as our parents did. We survived without cell phones so can the spoiled children of today. It's total nonsense that it's racial what the heck is wrong with these people always trying to use the Race Card to get what they want. The Liberals just want the vote they care less about cell phones being allowed in schools. FOOLS!
Eneri July 8, 2012 at 04:32 pm
I worked in Special Education with the NYC DOE, and some of what you say I agree with however, those of us in group of laid off employers were told it was because of budget cuts. I think my suggestion is a perfect opportunity for the DOE to secure job, hire a few more, and have extra $$$ rather instead they allow local shop owners to make it by having that perception.
Despite you thinking this is "time consuming" the money a program like this will bring may take care of all your concerns if this program in done correctly, of course there will be the parents who will say, “I can’t afford it” or “it’s not fair” the way I see it, you got your kid a phone this is the price you pay. There is NO FOOL PROOF SYSTEM,(kids will always figure out ways to fool the system) but at least the resources will be here to figure out NEW plans. What I find disheartening is an employee who discourages this, and refers to it as “time consuming”. Personally I do not think TEACHER NOR STUDENTS should have phones in their possession at all during school hours. YOU can’t TEACH or LEARN if you’re distracted by “missed calls, texts” Additionally, this rule or ban should not be restricted to NYC but rather NEW YORK STATE! The idea of extra money isn’t so bad particularly when it was the reason you were laid off (maybe someday this may be money that saves your job)
NYC Principal July 8, 2012 at 07:53 pm
With all due respect Eneri I believe that you're seriously misinformed. I do appreciate that you genuinely appear to be providing a very constructive suggestion which I applaud. However, you may not be familiar with the process that's involved with security regarding just the collection of cell phones. If you indeed work with the DOE then you of all people should be aware that to add another layer of bureaucracy in a system that is already fraught with inefficiency is not necessarily going to create the revenue you believe. I promise you that the revenue will not go to the DOE, but only line the pockets of the corrupt officials. If you don't believe me than ask yourself what ever happened to the supposed lottery revenue we were promised that we never received.Yes, I do agree that we're in a budget crisis all the time, but your plan will not keep jobs or create them. You must already know that they only stretch out resources.
I also agree with you that it's unacceptable that teachers have cell phones in classes during instructional time and the ban should apply to them too. Can I ask why is it necessary to appease these kids at all? After all who makes the rules here and who's in charge? Rules and regulations are put in place for a reason for students and aren't up for debate. People seem to forget that schools are meant for education and structured guidelines. They are meant to teach discipline as well. NO means NO! whining at home may work, not in school. KEEP THE BAN!!!!!
Eneri July 8, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Ms NYC Principal, I do understand that today YOU at the TOP of the class for that comment! the corruption, etc, I agree with all you say that it indeed for education there is just ONE thing I need to clarify to you though, that Is I AM FOR THE BAN, 100% the point in all I'm saying is parents you and I both know will NOT pay, so keep the ban and if they want it lifted pay the price that's the alternative not the solution. Everything else you said is find by me!
Rhea Gray August 7, 2012 at 02:28 am
As long as we have an NYC Principal on here what about another important question - is it true that principals have discretionary funds they can award each year to favored teachers or even keep for themselves? How much of this discretionary money do you get?
Rhea Gray August 7, 2012 at 02:30 am
Also Ms. Principal speakign of rules and regulations put in place for a reason - do you follow all state rules on gym time and recess time for your kids? Do you provide a weekly library visit for all children every week starting in kindergarten, with instruction on library use and book check-out? No whining here about state tests and yadda yadda -- remember, rules are rules and they are put in place for a reason. Do you follow those rules or no?
Chris August 13, 2012 at 12:57 pm
I have a son who is getting to the age where he'll be walking to and from school himself. I would like him to be able to have a cell phone in case anything goes wrong or he takes a wrong turn or whatever. It's just an added measure of security. I'd be willing to pay a small fee if necessary.
We live almost a mile from the school, which is not enough to qualify him for a bus. I work, and my other son goes to a different school for special needs. I am a single parent, definitely well onto the lower end of the Forest Hills income scale (which is to say I'm middle class), and it can be a real challenge to coordinate picking up both kids from school. But I don't feel comfortable letting my older son walk without any way of reaching someone if anything goes awry. I do believe that school is strictly for education and fully support the phones being banned from classroom use, but there are other things besides school that parents have to consider.

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